By   August 10, 2013

The 550 Spyder is One of Our 5 Best Non-911 Porsche Production Cars

The 550 Spyder is One of Our 5 Best Non-911 Porsche Production Cars

The Porsche 911 is the German car maker’s best known vehicle. The 911 has been with us for 50 years now, surviving a plan to replace it in the 80’s. there have been some great 911s made, but Porsche has made some other pretty special cars.

Below we list our top 5 best non-911 Porsches.

  1. Porsche 550 Spyder
    Very few 550 Spyders were produced with a large number of the cars being used for racing. The iconic car was based on the 356, but was designed with racing in mind. It was the 550 that gave Porsche their first major racing victory with a win in the 1956 Targa Florio.
  2. Porsche 356 Carrera
    The 356 Carrera is the sports car that originally bore the Carrera name. The name was to commemorate the companies success at the Carrera Panamericana race. The special edition offered better performance that the standard 356.
  3. Porsche 959
    The 959 had a lot of technological advances. The technology in the car led to much of the technology in modern cars. It was in many ways the father of the modern supercar as well as the basis for much of the advances in modern 911s.
  4. Porsche Carrera GT
    The Carrera GT is a modern supercar, but (unlike many modern supercars) still a driver’s car. The project was originally going to be the basis for a new Le Mans race car, but when the race project got canceled they decided to only build the road car. The mid-engined supercar is one of the all time greats and it is perhaps the only Porsche that Jeremy Clarkson has every referred to as perfect.
  5. Porsche 924 Carrera GT
    The 924 Carrera GT may have had an Audi engine, but getting over 200 horsepower in the road version was all thanks to Porsche. The styling was basis for the 944 and at the time it had world class performance. It was also the starting point for the racing version that finished 6th overall at the 24 Hours of Le Mans (winning its class).

Update: (8-13-2013)
We have had a lot of great discussion about our list and because many people thought we left off their favorites we thought we would share our next 5.

We have also, had it brought up that the 959 is essentially a 911. We did debate on if it should make our list and we felt because it wasn’t officially labeled a 911 it was still eligible.

Below is where we would stick them, but let us know where you would put them in the comments.

6. 928 GTS
7. 914-6
8. 944 Turbo S
9. Boxster Spyder
10. Cayman R

So, that is our list, let us know if you agree or not in the comments below.

Update (8-15-2013):
So, after a lot more discussion and research we have decided to remove the Porsche 959 from this list. This decision came down to the car’s DNA. Although, technically the 959 was never sold to the public as a 911 it was based on the 911. It was also a car that shaped future 911s with its all-wheel drive system and helped move the platform toward a water cooled engine. Because of this we will be including it in our list of 5 best 911s (which will be posted later today, and I’m sure we will get some good discussion on that list as well).

Because of removing this we have moved the Porsche 928 GTS into the number 5 place.

So, the updated list is below.
1. Porsche 550 Spyder
2. Porsche 356 Carrera
3. Porsche Carrera GT
4. Porsche 924 Carrera GT
5. Porsche 928 GTS

Not to slight the 928 GTS and to give it the respect it deserves below is more about the car.

Porsche 928 GTS
The 928 GTS was the final incarnation of the 928. For most of its life the front engined GT car sat at the top of the Porsche lineup (except while the 959 was being sold). Unfortunately, this made some purists upset as it was above the race proven 911 (although, since its release the 928 has had its own motorsport success). The GTS is possibly the best of the lot with its 5.4-liter V8 engine that could go from 0 to 60 mph in 5.7 seconds (and that number may be conservative as some have reported a 5.2 second time). Thanks in part to its front engine rear transaxle layout it was also a great handling car. The 928 was the first production Porsche to have a V8 engine and it showed what the Porsche engineers were capable of when given a clean slate and much of the technology from it made its way to other cars.

Let us know what you think of our removing the 959 and adding the 928 GTS in the comments below. Also, make sure to subscribe to this blog so you can get our latest articles and can keep us honest ;)

Please note we went with the 928 GTS over the Club Sport largely because of the larger engine and being the best overall GT car. The Club Sport is a much more focused track toy and you could make the argument that it should be over the heavier GTS. None the less both are great and pretty rare cars and feel free to let us know your favorite in the comments below.

  • 356guy

    The 356 Carrera was just part of the legendary 356 line. I would have just said the Porsche 356, because you are leaving out the Speedster, A, B, C lines, which built Porsche.

    • David Hurth

      Good point they are all wonderful cars.

      • Ignacio Rodriguez

        don’t forget the new 2013 boxter or boxter s. it is the best balanced sports car i’ve ever driven.

        • David Hurth

          True, I guess the problem is Porsche has made too many great cars.

  • Stefan

    How did you skip “904 series-GTS!”
    It transitioned Porsche from a small manufacture to major league in terms of racing to legitimate factory racer… Also you can’t forget the 993 series!

    • David Hurth

      Both great cars, but the 904 was a race car and not a production car and the 993 is a 911 and this list was for non-911 Production cars.

  • jspahn1

    Yeah, just gloss over the 928. It didn’t lead the front engine super car class for Porsche or anything. It wasn’t their fastest car or anything. Wasn’t car of the year it was introduced. You are a bunch of tools putting the 924 ahead of the 928.

    • David Hurth

      The 928 was a great car. However, the 924 Carrera GT (not the standard 924) was a special car that had a low production and it was the basis for the Le Mans race car.

    • David Hurth

      You’ll be happy to know that the 928 is now on the list. We removed the 959 because it has 911 DNA, hope you find that we did the 928 justice.

  • Porsche911Nut

    The Porsche 928 was perhaps one of the most remarkable automotive technology and design achievements that Porsche made. It was well ahead of its time and made contributions to automotive technology, style, and design that Porsche continues to use today (far more the 924 Carrera GT ever did). Not to mention it was the first CLEAN BOOK production Porsche, wholly engineered by Porsche (no Audi, Volkswagon, or any other manufactures engineering or design… JUST PORSCHE).

    I am a 911 (996C4S) driver today and I wholly respect the 928 as one of the top 5 best Porsches EVER MADE!

    What were you guys ever thinking when you left the 928 off of this list I will never guess. ***very puzzled***

    • David Hurth

      Good points and the 928 was a close 6th in this list. As I stated in a different reply, it was the 924 Carrera GTs desirability and racing pedigree that gave it the advantage. Having said this the 928 is a far better technical car and they are some of our favorite Porsches.

      • Porsche911Nut

        David, for the record, I don’t know anybody in my Porsche circles that have desired to own a 924 Carrera GT and none that have desired to ever race in one. However, I know many that have raced the 928, even to this day.

        The racing pedigree of the 924 may have taken it to Le Mans for Porsche but it remains a far less raced Porsche (in the real road course world) than the 928.

        If your argument is weighted towards the desirability and racing pedigree I am certain you will find in a poll that the 928 is a far more desirable and raced Porsche than the 924 Carrera GT, which simply in no form can ever compare to a 928 especially since it’s not even a complete Porsche, it’s half an Audi… for crying out loud!

        The 928 is a COMPLETE FULLY ENGINEERED, DESIGNED, and BUILT PORSCHE. The 924 Carrera GT can never claim that.

        Just my .928 cents :)

        • David Hurth

          Point well taken and you make some good points. Perhaps we should put a poll on the blog about this and see what is more popular. BTW thanks for reading the blog and it is great to have such thoughtful arguments about the article.

          • Porsche911Nut

            ***TWO THUMBS-UP!***

    • IX-XI

      The flying mile land speed record set in the 928 by Al Holbert was simply amazing. It was done in a fully stock 928S4 with cats and mufflers. A number of cars and automobile manufacturers chased that 928 record for several years and none could break it without modifying the car or removing something.

      The 928 was, and still is, the ultimate GT Supercar. I am just stunned that it is not in the top 5 non911 Porsches.

      I am just shaking my head at the authors of this article, I will keep that in mind when (if) I ever read anything else ever published by them.

      • David Hurth

        The 928 is possibly the best GT car every made. If you search this blog you’ll hear that repeated a bunch. I actually have a picture of a 928 on my desk, so I’m not exactly a hater of the car. Perhaps we should have just done a top 10 then everyone would be happy (more or less).

        I do want to thank you for reading this post and for giving you opinion and I hope that you’ll keep reading and see that we don’t have a thing against the 928 (I personally have been tempted by an S4 for sale down the street from my house).

        Also, if you don’t want to read anything from this author be careful when reading blogs like TopSpeed.com and magazines like Excellence as I have been published there (although apparently with much less controversial topics).

        • IX-XI

          David, I can appreciate that you have been published in many of the periodicals that have been 928 haters for a long period of time, and during its production years. However, there are a great number of Porsche enthusiast that read those and articles and can make a good critical argument against them. Unfortunately we do not have the power of ink in our favor as you do. But we do know bias and bad writing when we see it.
          The 959 is a 911 anybody can look at the car and see that. The fact that you try to make an case that is was release as model 959, albeit based on the 911 per the manufacturer is clear that you have a bias in your observation of the top non911 Porsche demonstrates that you do not want to give the 928 its place and the photo that you so proudly displayed for the 959 above.

          Even if the 959 were a marginal representation of the 911, it still has 911 blood in its design and configuration. Porsche only made ONE rear engine production car post the 356 and its designation is 911 (save the 901 in the first year which Peugeot dispute).

          So to close, if credibility is that of The Sports Cars Guys Purpose in this blog, you are failing to build it on this argument with Porschephiles here that understand the two things-
          1. You are trying to stand on a argument on the 959 that even the manufacturer has defined this Porsche is based on the 911.
          2. The 928 was a huge technology and design leap for Porsche as their FIRST wholly engineered and designed production flagship car and the perhaps the greatest GT Supercar ever built and Porsche’s greatest GT achievement does not reside in your top five non911 production cars.

          It is simply baffling to many of us at how The Sports Car Guys arrived at this top five selection opinion, and continues to stand on a very weak argument for its top five selections that include the 911 based 959 and a 924 Carrera GT as compared to the 928… it just wreaks of severe bias.

          By the way, I too am a 911 driver.

          • David Hurth

            Thanks for your comments.

            For the 959 I’ll talk to some guys from Porsche at Peeble Beach this weekend and have them settle that for us.

            As for the 928 we think it is a great car and perhaps we can do a full review of a 928 to make sure we give it a fair shake. We’ll just need to find someone with a good one in the California Central Coast area, which shouldn’t be too hard.

  • Samiot

    The 928 was a vastly superior car in every way to the 911. Porsche engineers wanted to scrap the 911 because they knew the 911 would never meet stringent EPA regulations but instead caved to the whims of its fans. Ok, fine. I, for one, am glad the 911 is still here, but the 928 deserves to be on this list. First front engined Porsche, first V8, first Porsche with perfect balanced weight distribution front to rear (due to rear transmission), all aluminum suspension and most of the sheetmetal…I could go on. No way any iteration of 924 compares to the 928.

    • David Hurth

      So we had a bit of discussion here before making this list as to if we should put the 928 GTS or 924 Carrera GT in the 5th place. As you mentioned the 928 was far superior in every technical way, but is was the fact that a 924 Carrera GT is more desirable as a collector car (if you can find one for sale) and that it was the basis for the Le Mans racer that finished 6th overall and winning its class that have it the 5th place.

    • Mreprize

      You have obviously never driven a 944 Turbo :)

      • Porsche911Nut

        I’ve driven the 944 Turbo myself and lusted after one for many years until I had the opportunity to get a taste of the 928GT and I never looked back on the 944 Turbo (or the 968). The 928 was a vastly superior Porsche in EVERY WAY to all iterations of the 911 and 944… there is NO QUESTION THAT THE 928 WAS THE RIGHTFUL FLAGSHIP FOR PORSCHE IN ALL YEARS OF ITS PRODUCTION.

        The 928 had every piece of cutting edge production technology and design ever developed by Porsche built into it, and then some. No other Porsche could claim that in any year that 928 was produced… not even my beloved 911 could claim that.

        • david 951

          the 944 and 928 are two very different cars. I wouldn’t care for the 928 (fast, heavy GT), but love my 944 Turbo for doing everything a sports car should, without having a gas sucking V8 and portly weight.

      • David Hurth

        The 944 Turbo was quite a car. And the S model (and 1989 Turbo) are about as good as a turbo car gets (at least for their time). It just missed the top 5, but is definitely in our top 10.

        Thanks for commenting and I hope you will come back and get in more discussions in the future.

    • David Hurth

      So, we actually have removed the 959 which has moved the 928 on the list. I can tell you are passionate about the 928 and I love that passion. Thanks for commenting on the post and I hope you will come back and participate in more discussions.

    • Michael

      Right on

  • jeff968

    My favorite will always be the final evolution of the front engine 4 cylinder cars, the 968. With the great styling of the 928 but with the raised fenders and cleaned up rear, it is a beautiful car that looks as good today as it did in 1992. Combined with the latest technology of the day you’ll find the perfect 50/50 weight ratio and a 236hp inline 4 cylinder that not only propelled the car from 0-60 in 6.1 seconds but returns excellent fuel economy. Due to being launched in the middle of a recession sales were very low for these hand-built-in-Stuttgart beauties so they are also very unique. Make mine a 968!

    • Dan

      Jeff, I completely agree. The 968 is the ultimate example of Porsche four cylinder, front engine perfection. It was expected, after all. How 968 and 928 failed to make this, or any other list, smacks of 911 grudgery. I mean, seriously, everyone knows a 959 is a thinly disguised 911 that, only a few years later, morphed into a 993. Duh. Were it not for 924 and 944, Porsche would very likely have failed in about 1976 or so. I have to agree with many others who posted here, 928 was so far superior to 911, it is shameful that it was not even mentioned in this article. Shameful.

      • David Hurth

        Good points, they are both good cars and we do love the 928. Thanks for reading and for letting us know what you think (that is why we have these comments).

      • David Hurth

        Thanks for you thoughts. We have actually updated the list and the 928 is now on it and the 959 is going to be on a different list.

        Thanks for reading the blog and I hope you’ll keep coming back and join in on future discussions.

    • JimK

      I love my 1992 968, the car is a monster.

      • David Hurth

        That is a personal favorite of mine. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and I hope you’ll keep reading and join in on future discussions.

    • David Hurth

      The 968 was quite a car. I see one everyday on my way to the office and it is a beautiful car.

      Thanks for sharing and I hope you’ll keep coming back and participate in future discussions.

  • Djml66

    You left out the best of all—914-6. Porsche wouldn’t bring it to market with the 2.4 911S engine because it would out perform any 911 at the the time.

    So I built my own. If it were not for rust and some over-stressed metal, I’d still have it.

    • David Hurth

      True the 914-6 was a very good car.

    • David Hurth

      We love the 914-6 and it is too bad more weren’t built.

      On a different note, we are looking for owners of interesting cars (starting with Porsche) for a series on living with these cars. Would you be interested in it? If so, you can use our contact form to get in touch with us.

      Thanks for you comments and I hope you’ll come back and join in on more discussions.

      • Djml66

        David, I will be glad to share my experience with 914-6.

        • David Hurth

          Great! When you get a chance just use our Contact form so we can connect without posting contact information.

  • Samiot

    David,
    You are completely contradicting yourself. One of your replies states the 904 was excluded because it was a race car, then you state the 924 Carrera GT was chosen in part because of its, “racing pedigree.” Your title was,” The 5 Best.” Not the 5 most collectable, raced or whatever other reason you have for excluding the 928. And, BTW if you want low production, try finding a 928 with a stick like mine!!

    • Porsche911Nut

      As the years went on the 928 is indeed a rare Porsche car in several of its forms-

      The fire breathing 1995 928GTS is rather rare and still fetches a $50K plus price tag… if you can find one. 928GT’s are also rare, as is the 928S4 it replaced in 1989- the manual shifting 928S4. I don’t know if 30 copies are out there to be found of the manual shift 1989 928S4 (very rare car and highly collectable). But more collectable that that was the single drivers door mirrored 928 Club Sport, I think that Porsche made perhaps three (3) of those, but certainly no more than five (5), if i can recall correctly. That is far more collectable and rare than any 924 Carerra GT.

      And lest we forget the original front engined sedan (today we call it the Panamera) was the Green 928 S4 sedan made exclusively for Ferry Porsche and I believe there is only one (1) copy of that ever made.

      By the way, Dan’s response (below) is correct– the 959 is in fact a rear engined AWD 911 based on the 911 racer “Moby Dick” and designed for rally car racing while cloaked in a highly modified 911 body with monster truck underpinning and all wheel drive! It ultimately became the Turbo 911 Carrera w/AWD and the Carrera 4 (per Porsche). The 959 is a 911 production super-car and its racing counterpart was the 911 961. The 959 is purely a 911 production designations just like production designations 993, 996, 997, and 991. David, I don’t think you are fooling anyone with that one if this is about non-911 Porsches. The 959 rightfully should be removed from the list and the 6th place 928 needs to take its rightful seat in the top five best NON 911 based Porsches.

    • David Hurth

      You are right about finding a manual transmission. I’ve been looking at a 928 S4 down the street from my house that is for sale and I don’t like the fact that it is automatic. That appears to be the case with most of them out there.

    • David Hurth

      You obviously love your 928. How would you like to write a guest article about living with a 928? We are going to start a series about different Porsche models from an owners point of view. BTW we have updated the list and the 928 is now on it.

  • Mreprize

    How are you considering these production cars? Sure they were great cars but the chance of owning is next to impossible due to extremely limited numbers. Here is a more realistic (possibly better) list for you.
    1. 914 – given the same engine outperforms a 911 of the same era in every way. Mid engine, affordable (at least for now), and a blast to drive
    2. 944 Turbo – More comfortable and civilized yet out performs 911s and pretty much any other car of the same era.
    3. 928 GT – or even better a GTS though they pretty limited production in the US.
    4. 924 S – If don’t mind the looks this one has a true Porsche engine.
    5. Cayman R – Only included as 904s were limited production, this is the next best thing.

    • David Hurth

      That is a good list and those are definitely more obtainable than are list which is mainly cars with low production numbers. Thanks for sharing your list and for reading the blog.

    • ScoobyDone

      I concur. The 914, although the red-headed stepchild of Porsche, made for an excellent street car and even better racecar. Clearly a landmark automobile in Porsche’s history. Plus, as a racecar I campaigned one successfully against the rear-engined 911s with total cornering immunity! Very stable and successful layout.

  • David Hurth

    One more thing for those of you who think the 928 should be in the top 5, we will be posting a poll on this blog later today to get our readers opinions on that, so keep reading :)

    Also, for clarification the Porsche 924 Carrera GT was an early 80’s limited production car with 210 horsepower the could go from 0 to 60 mph in 5.9 seconds and hit a top speed of 150 mph in the road going version. The GTR and GTS were much faster. Even though the engine started out as an Audi engine, the Porsche engineers went through it and made a lot of changes to allow for that much power and in the racing version were able to get just under 400 horsepower out of that engine.

    Racing Legend Derek Bell raced one and currently owns one and has been quoted as calling it his favorite Porsche (even over the 911s he owns).

    Unfortunately, the car was never officially sold in the United States with only a handful being exported here (most on the grey market) after the cars production run.

    One more point of clarification we were not able to track down all of these cars to drive. We have been in many of these cars (some cars like the 550 Spyder you just can’t get an original to drive and while we have seen Jerry Seinfeld’s car we weren’t allowed to take it for a spin), but not necessarily driven them. As press we have been able to drive many new Porsches (mainly 911s, Boxsters and Caymans) and have driven some 944s, 924s (we drove the normal car and that car is slow, but good handling), 928s, 911s and 914s to name a few. Unfortunately, owners of Carrera GTs and 959s will normally want to drive unless you are a much bigger publication.

  • Porsche911Nut

    I am going to restate- This is about the best Non-911 Porsches and the 959 is a 911 designation number, and to that end, the 911 961 was the racing counterpart of the 911 959. This is not a fact in dispute even by Porsche, and that the 959 ultimately became the 911 Twin Turbo Carrera w/AWD and the 911 Carrera 4.

    The 911 959 model designation is no different than the 993, 996, 997, or 991 design designations. The 959 should be removed from your list and the 6th place 928 needs to take its rightful place in the top five best Non-911 Porsches.

    Even Porsche records the history of the 959 as being 911 based.

    • David Hurth

      Didn’t actually think that this list was going to be so controversial :) I understand what you are saying about the 959, but it kept its place on the list as it was released under the public number 959 instead of an internal number of 959. Will put a poll about this and see what everyone thinks on if it should be removed (sometimes blogging by comity is a good thing).

      Also, unrelated to this, but thought you might like a recent post of our. http://thesportscarguys.com/2013/08/14/video-should-porsche-bring-back-the-928/

      • IX-XI

        David, I for one completely disagree with you. The 993, 996, 997, 991 as the “Porsche911Nut” guy points out, were all released under those designations and they are still 911’s even though they are not released under the 911 model number.

        Come on, you guys argument for keeping the 959 in the top five is just weak and there is not a Porsche driver/fan here reading this blog that is buying it.

        • David Hurth

          Thanks for sharing your thoughts and again for reading the post. Glad that we have some passionate Porsche fans out there :-)

          We have actually added another post to get our readers take on this. Of course if our readers overwellmingly decide that we are wrong about this we will be updating the list. So, feel free to head over there and comment about it.

          http://thesportscarguys.com/2013/08/14/is-the-porsche-959-a-911-in-disguise/

  • AlexK

    Hmmm, I’d have to agree to swapping the 924Carrera with the 928. I respect your choices as valid great autos but the 928 has stood the test of time.

    • David Hurth

      Thanks for your thoughts. All of you are making Frec Hope that also writes for us happy. He wanted the 928 in 5th place.

    • David Hurth

      So, we actually have removed the 959 which has moved the 928 on the list. Thanks for commenting on the post and I hope you will come back and participate in more discussions.

  • Akader

    Hmmm, yeah, I would have to agree that leaving the 928 out was either an oversight or just not knowing anything about the technology or have really never driven the car. I respect the other cars nominated, but I would have to replace the 924 with the 928. Good discussion though!

    • David Hurth

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Unfortunately, the 924 Carrera GT is hard to get a hold of. Otherwise, we could do a review of that and a 928 and see what is the better car to drive.

    • David Hurth

      OK, the list has now been updated to include the 928. Thanks for your comments and I hope you will keep coming back to the blog.

  • Mmgyver1

    Clearly if the 928 GTS makes the list someone for got about the “half’ brother. 944s2 uses half the 928 block with 959 valves and other enhancements and made one of the most enjoyable and forgiving porsches to drive of all time. You cant find more fun for the dollar in any porsche. Just keep an eye on that chain tensioner and timing belt !

    • IX-XI

      That’s the point- the 944s2 was half of a 928. It took the 928s production first to make the 944s2 into a decent Porsche. Without the 928 there is no 944s2

      • david 951

        i disagree, isn’t it possible to make your point without insulting a car you are biased against?

    • David Hurth

      944 S2 is a pretty good car and one that we would love to own.

      Thanks for commenting and I hope you’ll come back and get in future discussions.

  • Al Zim

    It is unfortunate that most people will never have the opportunity to drive a 1956-1965 356 Normal or Super. These cars were nimble, light in their response, the roomiest 2 person vehicle Porsche made and the owner could do his own maintenance. With a little TLC the 356 would never let you down.

    • David Hurth

      I agree with that. I have a friend that has a few and he works on them for a living and they are wonderful cars.

  • Porsche911Nut

    I like this new top five list of the greatest non-911 based Porsche. It is a more accurate reflection of the pinnacle of Porsche design and engineering. It also demonstrates Porsche’s history was not just a one trick pony with the 911 as an automobile manufacturer. Moreover Further, the 928 dynasty is now properly and respectfully takes a well deserved place as it is reflected in the TOP FIVE BEST NON-911 PORSCHES.

    Bravo Sports Car Guys, Bravo.

    • David Hurth

      Glad you like it. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the blog and I hope you keep reading it in the future.

    • racer1259

      928 is a period piece, 924 carrera gt will stand the test of time.

  • cartjm01

    Adding the 928 GTS is on point, front engine car. To the list I would add the Boxster S, Cayman S and the 951 (aka the 944 Turbo)….more front and mid-engine cars. The 356 and 911 GT Carrera are in essence 911s, remove them. 924 Carrera GT is a great car ( basis for the 944) but was not a mass produced car. Here would be my list:
    1. 550 Spyder
    2. 928 GTS
    3. 944 Turbo S (951)
    4. Boxster S
    5. Cayman S

    • David Hurth

      That is a good list.

      Two things:
      1. I would argue that both the 356 and Carrera GT are not 911s. The 356 may have the same engine layout, but it is a flat-four engine and many parts are more similar to those on a VW Type 1 (although over the years they grew further apart) than those on the later 911. Plus, the 911 had that flat six engine. As for the Carrera GT, it had a mid-engine V10 and when you look at one in person you can tell it was designed originally to compete at Le Mans. The newer 911s may have taken on some of the same technologies, but the cars are still very different.
      2. Did you put the Boxster S and Cayman S over the Boxster Spyder and Cayman R because of low production numbers, or do you just think they are better cars?

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts and I hope you will come back in the future :)

  • Michael

    Reading all this it become obvious to me that the 928 has been ignored as a black sheep of the Porsche family. Let me tell you I have both 911 and 928s4 in my garage and without a doubt the 928 ( year for year) a far superior car . If Porsche had not discontinued the 928 they would be today ahead of all others instead of running to catch the competition.

  • 928 ballz 2 the wall!!

    Nice list. I think the 928 goes a bit up on it. Maybe just because I drive one and love it, but what’s not to love about it?

  • queasyrider

    Not to place the 88-89 944 TurboS on the top of the list is sacrilege! These cars could out accelerate, out brake and out corner any NA 911 of their day. With upgraded power, brakes, and perfect weight balance , these were(and still are) formidable track day and race series vehicles . The very limited 968 Turbo would have been a world beater if it went into series production. Long live the 951(944T)S !

  • queasyrider

    Although the 928 was a great GT in its day, and putatively the forerunner of the Panamera of today, it cannot hold a candle(pop-up headlight) to a 951S in performance. How many 928’s are campaigned in SCCA events? Three classes of 944’s are, and in 2 dedicated spec series as well! Long live the 951S !

    • david 951

      agreed, the 928 and 951 (S or not S) are different purpose vehicles. If you want an expensive, heavy, overly powered, poor MPG, “technologically advanced” GT, get the 928, if you want a sports car, get the 951.

  • FastEddy

    One minor correction: The 171 land speed records were done with “flag” mirrors removed on that white 928S4. Also note that at 3500 lbs and 326hp, the ’89 928GT was likely a bit faster. GT cams, pistons, higher rev limit, GTS intake and brakes, and forged alloy ClubSport rims make a difference (not sure about those temp-dependent intake flaps that were discontinued in 1990?). It really depends on selection criteria. Yes the 928 was ground breaking for Porsche–both in timeless design, technology and purpose. (Infinity in 2007 made a HUGE deal about its “instrument cluster moving with steering wheel adjustments for perfect view of critical instruments on M37xS…only 30 years late.) Remember, it is a “GT,” not a sports car. Different purpose; comfortable high speed cruising with ample room for 2 plus luggage, but with less “attention” required. It came with a cost that could not, in the end, sustain sales. As for rarity, ’89 GT was produced for only 4 months (March-June) and about 100 made it to US. They are rare, robust, reliable and rapid. The balanced handling is under-appreciated (except by experienced DE Instructors and WIDE-eyed students).

  • mife_us

    about time you give the 928 some respect. after all by ignoring it you would erase 20 years in Porsche production and development.

  • Mi 911

    I think it was a good choice to remove the 959. To me the 959 was the beginning of the future of the new 911. The 959 was way before its time in tech..